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Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption!

By gmahavirmdesnaa, Section Ask Questions
Posted on Thu Jun 21, 2007 at 08:48:06 PM EST

Please let us know the complete details on Nagpur bench of Bombay High Court staying NET exemption last year granted to M.Phil/Ph.D holders by UGC Regulations dated 14-06-2006.

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Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! | 89 comments (89 topical, 0 hidden)

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#271)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jan 20, 2008 at 12:12:27 PM EST

I appeal to all teachers/teacher aspirants (having NET/M.Phil/Ph.D, all or any of them) to stop quarreling and avoid claiming self-superiority. We all need to be responsible while expressing our opinions, necessarily only in democratic way. Why do you forget that not only teachers across the world but general public and students as well will be reading our utterances.

Awarding superiority to NET holders or Ph.D/M.Phil holders will not serve the purpose since its 19 months now that UGC Regulation 2006 dated 14.06.2006 have relaxed NET for all Ph.D and M.Phil holders. Courts too have upheld UGC as the sole authority to decide teachership qualification and have categorically refused to interfere in the same. Even Supreme Court in Bar Council case ruled that its Bar Council to ponder over the issue of qualification, when it watered down Law College Principal's qualification to UG Degree in Law from PG degree.

Any more U-turns on qualification criteria will result in its makers being called as laughing stock. It would have done world of good had UGC not diluted NET at all (even for 1993 M.Phil/Ph.D holders then upto 2002 Ph.D holders). No doubt, now NET candidates have to face more competition and logic lies in they being preferrred for lecturership post but otherside argument that when upto 1993 M.Phil holders are eligible then why after 1993 M.Phil holders have to stand ineligible. So this questioning and counter questioning will go on and on without ending. But the fact is that NET relaxation has become popular and let us leave it there.
Let us reconcile now that qualification is a mere benchmark for eligibility. We shall adopt the policy of Live and Let Live. What shall matter most is the quality of teaching. Let us strive best that recruitment drive across India is by fair selection process as stipulated in UGC Regulation 2000 dated 04.04.2000. The correct composition of selection committee will prove to avoid backdoor entries and no doubt that NET qualified candidates may have some preference over others. Quality selection can be assured whether it is M.Phil/Ph.D/NET candidate. But another fact is that College managements are making independent appointments sans proper selection procedure as directed by Universities on UGC based rules. Universities and few of State Governments have refused to approve such improper appointments and matter is pending in appellate Supreme Court and various High Courts too on the appeals of deafeated college Managements.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#221)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:34:48 AM EST

There is no question of getting frustrate for Net/set passed candidates, as they have proved by clearing the competative exam taken by UGC.It is you have to bother and think open mindedly.Since we are living in the era of competetion so every body should be well prepared for this exams. Net/ SET passed students have learn to face the competetion/challenges and therefore they are not worried about MPhil guys.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#230)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 04:37:22 AM EST

So let the Selection Board decide who is the best. If M.Phil/Ph.D holders then they will be selected if NET qualifies are better then they will get selected.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#245)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 06:32:20 AM EST

NET/SET candidates are always best thats why they have cleared this very tough exam. For MPHIL you can say they are better , because still they have to prove themselves.So far as selection committee is concern no body should bother about them they will do their work.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#251)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 12:39:36 AM EST

So you yourself agree that M.Phil candiadates are better than NET /SER

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#283)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 12:19:14 AM EST

what is status of court case for stay on ph.d. please let me know

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#302)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 06:21:04 AM EST

I am unaware of the stay on Ph.D. To my knowledge, there is a stay on the operation of UGC Regulation 2006 (dt., 14.06.2006)stipulated Qualification relaxation, that too only in the State of Maharashtra.
Madras High Court has twice upheld NET relaxation. Kerala HC too have endorsed same. I understand from the recent developments that Nagpur Court has sought report from the UGC or Mungekar Committee, the report on which qualification rules were amended. It is not known whether educational administrators have submitted it or not.
Please find out and let all know about further developments.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#254)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 07:23:25 AM EST

I repeat again that NET/SET candidates are always Good than MPHil because they have proved by clearing the exam taken by UGC. MPHIlies havent proved themselves by clearing any competative exams.

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#257)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 10:31:39 PM EST

Your previous statement does not reflect this so how can I buy your argument. When you cannnot express yourself clearly then how can I can make out NET/SET are able.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#194)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 07:33:49 AM EST

mphil peoples are frustrated thats why they are cursing NET/SET passed students.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#193)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 07:33:13 AM EST

mphil peoples are frustrated thats why they are cursing NET/SET passed students.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#189)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Dec 25, 2007 at 05:24:15 AM EST

SET/NET holders found not effective teachers,also they have only theorotical knowledge which is gained by mugging.While M.Phil,Ph.D. holders have theorotical as well as research oriented experimental skills which gets after lots of efforts.So this option must be conidered.Actualy quality of M.Phil. Ph.D. degree can be check at the time of appointment.No all SET/NET holders found effective.Similarly for M.Phil. Ph.D. have selection criteria at appointment.
So M.Phil. Ph.D. holders from best institutes will be superior than mugger SET/NET holders.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#198)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 11:53:31 PM EST

I totally agree with u these muggers do not have that quality and effort which M.Phil/Ph.D put while doing research.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#192)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 07:20:51 AM EST

oh oh atlast you frustrated peoples got the word muggers. It is poor to see that you peoples are sticking to the word muggers for NET/SET passed candidates If muuging is the only key to clear NET/SET than why hell all this court matter is going on and why hell is the passing % below 5%. SET/NET students knowledge is updated as their studies are related to subject only, whereas Mphil/Phd. thesis are irrelevant with syllabus. Mphil students have little bit of syllabus , but every body knows the quality of theisis/Reports and how degrees are awareded.
This is a era of competition, quality,challenges.If there is competetion in other fields than why not in educational area. So my dear friends get from sleep, open your eyes and start looking +vely and dont keep on cursing SET/NET passed candidates.God bless you.try try but dont ask why.Try untill you get success.Never give up.Be positive always.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#199)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 12:00:36 AM EST

Now one can c the attitude of NET/SET holders. They know that they are muggers that is the reason the term 'mugger' is hitting & pinching them. As it is a fact that they are muggers. If these NET/SET are so competent then why they are not getting the jobs this shows that the SElection Committee wants quality teachers not muggers. Most of the NET/SET are jobless as they do not have creative mind.Even UGC had exempted persons from NET/SET as the apex body also knows that quality cannot achieved throgh mugging. In all Central Universities UGC is giving fellowship to boost research.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#222)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 09:07:17 AM EST

It is really pity to see that you frustraters are still sticking to the word Muggers.If mugging was the only key than every body would haved mugged and would have cleared this exam and result would have been more than 50%. But this is not the real case. untill and unless you have deep knowledge about your subject, it is highly impossible to clear this competative exams.Truth is that you dont want to study hard. Quality is always assess through competative exams, thats you find exams like MPSC/UPSC/RRb etc.If SET/NET passed candidates are not getting the jobs than it does not mean that they are incompetent.They have already proved that they are well competent by clearing the competative exam taken by apex body UGC. It is just matter of time and also some educational institutes are playing their vital role in appointing the students through proper channel? I think you are getting what I am trying to say regarding appointments. hope so.......

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#231)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 04:56:02 AM EST

We are not frustated u guys are frustated that is the reason that the term mugger is pinching you. UGC knows the potential of M.Phil holders that is the reason they came with new regulation and started giving financial help to M.Phil and Ph.D holders as those person who are NET are useless and they do not have creativity and adequate knowledge. Inlast Sunday Times issue Thorat has said in an interview that "we are going to increase the fellowship for those who are doing M.Phil and Ph.D" this reflects that they do not need muggers. As far as UPSC and MPSC is concerned u r mismatching different services. Every service demands different kind of knowledge and skill. There a simple graduate can give an exam but here minimum qualification is MA. Recruitment is an ongoing process and u r concealing the fact that NET guys are not getting selected because they need competancy which NET qualified fail to produce.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#55)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Oct 29, 2007 at 06:02:01 AM EST

what happened on 16th of october 2007 of this case

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#100)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Nov 13, 2007 at 05:13:31 AM EST

I THINK NET IS USELESS,and those who r passed this exam they did not study for teaching profession , they want to became IAS IPS IFS OR PSI they r not fit for that post because of this they seat in this exam and thay r passed because they r study for competattive exam like UPSC,MPSC

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#138)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 28, 2007 at 07:36:41 AM EST

first of all peoples like you can only use such abusing ,lowlevel languages thats why you are not able to face competative exams and clear it successfully. If you say NET is useless and students trying for for MPSC UPSC clear NET exams,this means do you want to say that exams like MPSC,UPSC/,<RRB,SSC are useless!<br> No doubt NET/SET exams are competative exams,but here you have to go through Objective as well as subjective paper that to in stipulated time.NET/SET exams are cleared by only those students who have patience, tolerance,good communication skillls, and an ability to stay calm under pressure.They also have ability to make even those who are not keen on studying take interests in a subject.Net passed students proved to be best teacher/lecturers, since these are the only quality required,.
The passing percentage is as low as 5%This is because UGC tries to maintain a high standard for entrants into lecturership and research fellowship. Quality in Educaton is maintain only through such competative exams and UGC will never comprmise with quality education.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#200)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 12:04:53 AM EST

My friend you are taking about quality and you have written PEOPLES. When you cannot construct a single sentence properly and you are talking of quality and good communication skills. This is the reason why M.Phil and Ph.D holders are needed in Universities & Colleges not muggers.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#220)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Jan 02, 2008 at 08:23:47 AM EST

my dear friend dont stick to any particular word.I think you havent read it carefully and instead of accepting the truth/fact you are trying to find out some resons and blaming this students.Yon need not to worry about the words and communicaton skill about the NET/Set passed students.Very competent and eminents are sitting there to check the entire papers.If any problem is there then it is revealed from the exam result. You concentrate on competative exams and be positive always.If you are not able to clear the competative exams than Mhil/Phd options are there for frustrated guys.God bless you and dont give up.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#232)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 05:21:54 AM EST

I have to stick to particular word when you are going to teach in class then you will be using wrong words. When you do not know proper sentences and spellings how I can buy ur argument that NET/SET have adequate knowledge. The whole teaching community is blamed for your wrong doings. I do not want that persons who have low standard join the teaching community. It is absolutely shameful and disgusting that the persons who cannot write proper spellings are talking about quality and defending there wrong doings.I never gave NET/SET exam but I am already working as permanent Lecturer in a Central Government Institute for last six months.So worry about yourself and for the bunch of incompetent NET/SET qualifiers not for me.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#242)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 07:12:34 AM EST

It is really shameful and disgusting that frustrated persons like you who cannot write the spelling of `Your` instead you are writing `UR`this is how you teach the wrong words and spellings in the class and this how you are writing the papers using shortcut methods and you frustraters blaming the net/SET students. This shows your quality of english spellings and communication. No body is blamming NET/SET candidates quality because they have cleared this very very very tough competative exams taken by apex body UGC and have shown their standard of study.In fact they are praising these students for their achievements. It is the frustraters who kept on cursing Net/SET students, because they knew that they will not be able to compete these students and for that they are trying the back door entries like MPHIL. God will help to those students whom you are teaching very wrong spellings.Please dont do such silly mistakes and dont blame others for their success. Try Try but dont cry!

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#252)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 12:59:47 AM EST

The person does not know the proper sentence construction three times 'very' he is using. UGC does not parise NET/SET that is the reason that M.Phil and Ph.D holders were put in main stream . If NET/SET are brilliant then why they are scared. Your anger shows your frustations and incompetancy. I do not have try poor kid but you have to try to get at par with M.Phil and Ph.D holders. As far as I am concerned ur is short term used when a person is using a computer but "peoples" and "very,very,very" shows that u are nil in English. Try to improve yourself. Now God is asked to come in between by this pathetic boy again the boy is not confident either. The guy is not able to digest the fact that M.Phil and Ph.D holders are better.Why I should give NET/SET when I do not need it. Blunder and silly mistakes are done by you . I have deliberately written silly so that you understand meaning of silly but may not be knowing the meaning of blunder so get it word searched in dictionary. One thing more stop crying. We niether have to cry nor try.

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#258)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 10:37:39 PM EST

I absolutely agree with you that NET/SET do not know anything. The gentlman who does not 'people' is singular or plural is fighting similarly 'very,very,very' how many very he is going to use. Let me say like this NET/SET passed students do not know anything.They are very poor as far as communication and knowledge is concerned.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#108)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Nov 13, 2007 at 08:21:20 PM EST

I totally agree with you. These NET qualify even does not know the meaning of research and teaching. For them it is just a job. They are forgetting that M.Phil and Ph.D holders have to work extremely hard then they have a degree.It takes 5 years to get a Ph.D degree or even in M.Phil it is more than one year tedious process. Here you have to be creative.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#72)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 01:56:41 AM EST

still there is stay

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#157)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Dec 03, 2007 at 09:08:08 PM EST

When is the next date of hearing?

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#69)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 06:44:02 AM EST

IN INDIA PHD holders are only data collector,s and arn't doing any genuine research. MPhil also does not require much study and there are thousands of such mphil holders produced by cheap private colleges . even a poor but intelligent student can take and pass set/net exam because of lower fees but what u need for Phd and MPhil is money and influence. the tragedy of the whole system is that even the NET/SET passed pupil are job less today . it will be wiser to find job in private sector which is growing at an ultra fast pace than to throng govt institution

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#70)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 10:31:06 PM EST

If Ph.D holders are data collectors then NET/SEt qualifiesr just mug up and write answers. Whether it is IIT ,IIM or Central University research is going on properly. In M.Phil first one has to qualify written exam then has to write a dissertation and finally viva is there. How can one say that M.Phil are of poor quality. Doing M.Phil is more tedious than qualifying NET /SET. Now evaluators are from outside India as far as Ph.D is concerned. In all Central Universities first there is an Enterance Test then one can take admission in Ph.D

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#73)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 02:02:08 AM EST

the result in set/net exam is 1 or 2 % . so every mugger cant pass this eaxm. for passing this exam one has to do vast study . every mugger cant pass this exam. but in mphil every mugger will pass. please you mugg and try to pass this exam

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#83)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 11:23:38 PM EST

A person has to be creative when one has to write a desertation. Mugerrs pass exam NET/SET exam by mugging only.The answers written in NET/SET are too general and only 50% needs to get qualify NET exam while M.Phil is a concentrated study which these NET people cannot understand.One thing more if NET /SET qualifiers are unempolyed it shows that they are incompetent and No One Found suitable is done by the Selection Board.As NET was compulsary till now.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#184)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Dec 21, 2007 at 08:27:03 AM EST

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#91)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Nov 09, 2007 at 05:25:43 AM EST

every student getting 50% is not passes in net/set exam . its passing mark but only 1 to 2 % of top ranking get this degree

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#88)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Nov 08, 2007 at 06:33:51 AM EST

Mugging is very important to remember what you have read. Our old Rushimunis used to get early morning and used to mug the shastras,vedas etc, then only they were able to produce the knowledge.So mugging and reproducing it is our old tradition. Mugging and remembering requires skill. It is one type of art/science. These are the basic things to be understand . For any Big competative exams you have to mug..mug..mug.. and then only it will fix in your mind.Mugging requires lot of hard work, sincerity, patients etc and this basic things are lacking in you peoples thats why you are not able clear this exams.You dont want to study hard and want to find the short-cut method of study.
If set/Net exams are too general then why hell the percentage/its result are upto 1-2%. If you are not able to get even 50% marks in this exams then you peoples should do M.Phil/Phd. only. Because this Exams will only help you to get employment.
Finally mugging is not only important but what also is important to producing it precisely in stipulaed time.
So instead of cursing NET/SET exam passed students learn to accept the truth and dont give it up.

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#96)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 11:25:31 AM EST

I am shocked and surprised by the view of the gentelman. I think he must not take teaching as profession as teaching needs innovation and one has to be creative. The person like these are going to destory the future of India as they are going to promote mug up culture and will kill creativity in students. The gentleman like these instead of explaining things in class will just be giving dictation.His views are utterly disgusting.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#71)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 01:55:05 AM EST

the result of net/set exam is 1 or 2 percent so every mugger can not succeed in this exam. but every mugger will pass mphil. in shivaji university peoples working before 1999 are trying for permanent even though they are not net/set

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#23)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 10:09:29 PM EST

i am bhaskar from tamilnadu, why u couldn`t able to clear the net/set examinations, the net/set holders also having ph.d and m.phil degree don`t think u are cleave and the others are fool. even a clerical cadre there is an examination like, ssc, rrb , upsc so on. u want to teach the students without having knowledge in the concerned subject. fools only do such kind of exemption, net/set holders can do better research than others.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#25)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 10:32:45 PM EST

Only Net/Set holders can use abusive language like Mr.Bhaskar. This shows his basic character. The persons like Bhaskar are scared of Ph.d Holders as he knows that he cannot compete with M.Phil /Ph.D.'s. Mr.Bhaskar I pity you.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#48)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 12:15:18 AM EST

only competent person can take challeges. imcopetent ph.d m.phil seek back-door entry. if the exemption based on expert committee, whether the net is recommended by fools, earlier?

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#54)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 11:07:54 PM EST

Those persons who have recommended NET earlier were not able to judge the implications. Rastogi Pay Commission of 1996 clearly stated that research is not taking place. In Basic Science there was no lab. work or experiment were done. Those who use to qualify NET CSIR were directly appointed as Lecturers but were ignorant about new research and methodology as Lab. work was absent. NET is the repitation of M.Sc/M.A. and M.Com and only those who have mug up capabilities were coming in teaching. Cream was not taking teaching profession. Now after NET is not there new people are taking research and the funds for research are getting exhausted. Still I must say Ph.D/M.Phil is key to teaching not NET exam. Unfortunatly NET qualified candidates are not able to teach. So Ph.D must be mandatory instead of NET.NET qualified people are equally incompetent as far challange is concerned in research one can take challanges qualifying an exam is not a challange as they are repeating those things which are already there in books.What new u are doing.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#81)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 06:14:35 AM EST

dear friends ,
i have good solution on this. we have to give first prefference tothe peoples who r working more than 10 years in same institute and are not permenant yet, then we have to give prefference to 8-10 years. stop their increments
till they are not able to pass net/set . in maharastra universities set/net peoples are getting rs 2200/ per month and those who are backwards who r not set/net,mphil,phd r getting rs 8000/- per month

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#97)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 11:28:59 AM EST

M.Phil/Ph.D are getting 8000/- as they have a degree and it is the highest degree while NET/SET is a condition and NET/SET are unable to teach properly

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by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 06:53:47 AM EST

my dear friend NET/SET is not a condition. It is a competative exam like MPSC,UPSC, RRB to ensure quality in the respective field.Today we are living in the world of competition. There is competetion in each and every aspect of our life . Those who
get scared of competetion they lack behind or try to run away from the fact and try to find out some excuses.
NET/SET exams is challenged to prove that you are aware of the subjets that you are teaching in the class.There is nothing outside from the syllbus and you mind gets brush up whereas in MPHIL/PHD you are not covering the entire syllabus.You are doing researh or submitting thesis on particular topic which may be irrelevant to the syllabus.MPHIL students have little bit of portion of syllabus but we know the quality of thesis and how the degrees are awarded .
Net/Set exams are absolutely corruption free therefore poorest of poorest student can pass this exam and can take job of lecturer.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#24)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Oct 02, 2007 at 10:31:26 PM EST

Only Net/Set holders can use abusive language like Mr.Bhaskar. This shows his basic character and anguish. The persons like Bhaskar are scared of Ph.d Holders as he knows that he cannot compete with M.Phil /Ph.D.'s. Mr.Bhaskar I pity you.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#49)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 12:21:14 AM EST

hello my dear friend, why u r scared about examinations like NET/SET. Do u know how much mark they are fixing for the paper I and Paper II in net?. I am too pity on u because u couldn `t able to clear examinations. U r not a competent person so u want to enter the back-door entry and u want to spoil the students life. Poor quality research is reflected in ur reply not only u all the real reseachers are felt like this. god bless u

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by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 10:52:45 PM EST

Why are u scared of Ph.D candidates. Only NET/SET candidates can say this. As far as interview is concerned NET /SET candidates know that they are not able to compete with Ph.D candidates that is the reason they do not want us in the main league.As far as poor quality is concerned when u do not meaning then there is no use of discussion. U just mug up things and vomit in the papers as far as teaching goes one should have deep knowledge which NET/SET holders do not have.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#16)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 09:08:18 AM EST

ONLY RESEARCH ORIENTED STUDIES SHOULD BE GIVEN PREFERENCE, SUCH AS Ph.D.not even M.Phil.,because set/net is of no use in future development of students research will give some way to the studets which is required today but net/set just make person stagnant,as after passing the exam of set/net the dont study further or go into research.

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by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 09:28:55 PM EST

yes its very true after passing net or set people become stagnant and are not interested in doing any research work bec's they are working only for money and not the advancement of students or college ,even in NAAC research is given some extra points and reearch is need for the competition with the world which is highly growing in all new areas.students are wasting time and many years for this irrelevant exam which is having question on any one particular subject.

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by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 05:40:07 AM EST

in india phd r data collectors

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#15)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 09:03:02 AM EST

It is very irrelevaent to ask a SET/NET person for teaching because today research oriented studies are important and people who have cleared net/set does not have knowledge about their own subject after passing the exam of set or net.Also teachers who were in this field before this nonsense set/net came into existence were the best of teachers so this criteria of set/net should be only removed.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#82)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 06:15:43 AM EST

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#17)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Sep 25, 2007 at 04:08:40 AM EST

It is absolutely wrong judgment made saying that Set/Net does not have knowledge about their own subject... etc.Please check passing percnetage of this exam.Untill and unless student have deep knowledge about concern subject it is higly immpossible to clear this competative exam.
Today we are living in era of competition. If you want to succed in any field of life you have to face competition and you have to prove your best than only succes knocks your door.
If you want to remove competative Exam like SET/NET than remove exams like MPSC,UPSC,RRB,SSC and keep the criteria of Post graduate/MPhil/PHd etc,So that research oriented students will get opportunity of Jobs. Come on guys dont cry and wait for any research oriented studies.Come on give competitive exams and prove yourself that you are knowledgeable person. If one person is qualifying this tough exam means it is achieveable than why cant we!
Finaly this exam is absolutely corruption free. Whereas every body knows the Quality of research papers that has been submitted and how the degrees are awarded.
so to avoid corruption in the education field Set/Net exams must continued

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#19)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Sep 30, 2007 at 03:03:52 AM EST

I do not think NET qualified candidates are better. As far deep study is concerned it cannot be achieved by examinations like NET. For that M.Phil/Ph.D is must. NET is not meant for research oriented minds. From 1993 till today NET examination is there then why Indian Universities are unable to make its impact globally. We are not even in top 20 list. While University of Beijing (China) is in top 10 category. Recently NAAC has submitted its report to Ministry of HRD in which it has categorically stated that 57% of Colleges of India comes under the poor category as faculty members where not even M.Phil. If the capacity to mug up the things is better in a candidate then one can qualify NET examination. As far as UPSC and other examination is concerned one cannot co -relate with teaching as different jobs have different criteria. In these examination a candidate can only sit if he/she is simply a graduate. I have seen many NET qualified candidates who cannot properly teach in class and hooting and shouting happens in those classes.I cannot agree that Ph.D is awarded just like that. In Banaras Hindu University, Allahabad University or State University like GNDU, Amritsar the thesis is sent to a foreign examiners. I have not one but many examples of those candidates who have qualified NET/SET but their thesis was rejected by foreign examiners.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#43)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:00:57 AM EST

poor...poor.. the writer is not aware of such small thing that any competitive exams need deep study. To qaulify NET exam canditates need to prove himself by giving exam in stipulated time, with very effective and effecient answers. To pass this exam students need to go under all two aspects viz subjective as well as objective (G.K and subject knowledge)within time limit(time is very very imp). This shows his/her skill of proving himself.(This type of intellegency is required in the class while teaching).
Whereas REsearch oriented students takes long period (More than 5 years) to prove their ability and on the top their work is not individual i.e they are guided by many peoples/persons(and how they are guided God knows?) So in their success of getting degree many persons are there, than only they are able to prove their ability . Whereas Set/Net. exams are single handed success hence this students should be treated respectfully above phd/Mphil students. so instead of cursing this students and Set/Net degree learn to except the truth/Fact open mindedly and stop giving proof of other countries University and learn to face the challenges boldly of competitive exams.There is no point in proving Net
vs Mphil. Truth is Truth and Fact is Fact

N.B. we have been using the china made things and everybody knows its quality?.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#47)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Oct 26, 2007 at 11:44:36 PM EST

I think the guy is pathethic the fact that a teacher does not have to teach General Knowledge in class. He has to teach core subject and the guy has limited exposure if you do not have broad exposure then there is no need of discussion about research.. The gentleman even does not know the meaning of research he is comparing with Chinese goods. This shows his ablity/ competence. As far research goes it has upper hand. Why these NET guys are scared of Ph.D /M.Phil the nerveousness shows that they are unable to compete with Ph.D./M.Phil.Even in IIT's /NIT's they take M.Phil / Ph.d qualified candidates instead of NET.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#60)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Oct 31, 2007 at 09:18:34 AM EST

Any Challenger persons are not scared of any thing. Net/Set cleard students are challenged excepted students. They have sat alone(imp) for 10-16 hrs daily and prepared themselves for this tough exam, which is set by ugc. Instead of running away from the difficulties and problems they have learn to face/except it and cleared the exams.As our fingers are not similar . Similarly one may find slight differece betwween net/set passed candidate. But atleast these students have shown the guts to clear the competative exams. As we are living in the Era of Competiton and Quality. At least this should not be ingnored.Studying for how many hours does not matter. what matters is the output of that study(and that to in stipulated time/period)proving yourselves successfully in very stipulated time is the sign of broad exposure. Limited exposure peoples always try to find out the short cut from difficulties and try to find the back-door entries.The gentlemen is misunderstanding Research with any Goods. Any product/Goods is not obtained/coming in one night. Research/Studies has been done on such prioducts and then only it is coming in the market.So this is not link with any Research?.
But to be very frank and clear competetion is competition. so dont get scared of competition. If you have ability of doing research than you should have the ability of facing and clearing competitive exams. on the other hand there are so many Set/net qualified students are also doing research succesfully. so dont show fight/competition between NeT vs Mphil. Research studies has its own place and facing the competition and proving yourselves is at one place.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#239)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 09:34:13 PM EST

Net /set passing is nothing excepting any knowledge ,bec's this exam does not have any clarity and papers are not shown in case of doubt.so any person by contact or bribing may pass the exam and that's why they don't have proper knowledge and cant face interviews properly and show their knowledge

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#285)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 07:14:51 AM EST

who are you to judge the net/set passed candidates. When they are clearing this exams means their papers are chcked by experts only. IF these experts are not finding any thing wrong in their papers, then you have no right to talk on the quality of net/set passed students. ok my dear.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#238)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 09:34:13 PM EST

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#50)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Oct 28, 2007 at 12:43:28 AM EST

Only Net/Set holders PROVED THEIR KNOWLEDGE LIKE Mr.Bhaskar. This shows his basic ABLITY and COMPETENCY. The persons like Bhaskar are CLEARD NET,SET AND GATE(IIT CONDUCTED) Holders as he knows that he ONLY compete with M.Phil /Ph.D.'s.ALL NET AND SET CAN GET M.PHIL AND PH.D BUT LIKE U HAVING PH.D AND M.PHIL COULDNOT (ALREADY U PEOPLE SIT AND WROTE THE NET/SET U FAILED AND U R SCOLDING NET/SET).A WRONG ONE EVEN SUPPORTED BY LARGE PEOPLE REMAIN WRONG. MAKING A QUALIFIED PERSON TO COMPETE WITH UNQUALIFIED CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#101)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Nov 13, 2007 at 05:20:16 AM EST

no country in the world take this type of foolish and useless exam for teaching post all they r recruit only PH.D. degree holder

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#141)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Nov 29, 2007 at 08:41:59 AM EST

my dear friend dont use such dirty language .This shows how MPhil/PHd students are frustrated.Basic thing is thatyou dont want to study for long time and also you dont have practice of writing exam.thats why you are scared of such exams.Mphil is a time consuming and you keep on doing..doing..on and on .So here you get ample of time to show your ability and skill.Whereas In NET/SET exam you have to be very precise than only you willbe able such competative exams.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#140)
by Unregistered Visitors on Thu Nov 29, 2007 at 08:41:58 AM EST

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#145)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 02:26:23 AM EST

You have also agreed that M.Phil/Ph.D have skills while you do not have that is a reason you are scared of them. One thing why you are not getting a job it means that M.Phil/Ph.D performance is better and you are unable to prove yourself that is the reason you do not want M.Phil/Ph.D should apply.We are not frustated it is NET/SET holders are frustated as they are incompetent. It is NET/SET holders know that they cannot compete with M.Phil/Ph.D holders.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#98)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 11:32:47 AM EST

If you think that NET/SET are qualified then why u all r scared of M.Phil Ph.D holders? I think NET SET holders know that they are unable to compete with Ph.D/M.Phil holders.

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#118)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Nov 17, 2007 at 03:13:55 AM EST

The Net/set exams are no doubt tough but there is no competition with the Ph.D. And M. Phil. Only thing is that teacher should always update his knowledge regarding his subject and he should give something return to the society also by applying his knowledge. and this is possible only by the research activity. not the follish thing likes giving the exams.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#18)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Sep 30, 2007 at 03:00:59 AM EST

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#77)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 05:46:11 AM EST

my friend we have to respect court order . if u have to challange this nagpur court ,please you appear in this court and say what you want to say

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#95)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 11:10:14 AM EST

fisrt of all it is not an order it is an intrim stay that does not mean that it is the final order.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#12)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Aug 24, 2007 at 10:26:03 AM EST

Now let us wait upto October 16, 2007 for final hearing on the subject matter.

23 Aug 2007, Times of India , Nagpur City
HC notice to centre on UGC order

NAGPUR: The Nagpur bench of Bombay high court on Wednesday issued notice to Union of India on a petition by NET/SET holders challenging University Grants Commission (UGC) June 14, 2006 notification.

A division bench comprising justices A P Lavande and R V More also directed the respondents to file a reply in three weeks and fixed the final hearing on October 16.

In their petition, Bhupendra Mude and 14 others, who are NET/SET holders, claimed that UGC notification had exempted PhD and MPhil candidates for post-graduate level teaching whereas earlier it was mandatory for candidates to clear NET/SET for such positions.

The petitioner alleged that giving such exemption by substituting NET/SET is gross violation of Article 14 of UGC Act. Earlier, the UGC took a stand that NET/SET can't be substituted by PhD or MPhil candidates. As per Section 28 of UGC Act, amendments in the government notification about any exemption in qualifications should be tabled before the Parliament, which the UGC had failed to do so, the petitioner claimed.

During an earlier hearing, the high court gave a notice to UGC, which failed to file a reply. Then the court gave an interim stay to the said UGC notification.

However, in an interesting turn to the case, about 251 PhD and MPhil holders filed an intervention application seeking them as third party and challenging the stay granted on UGC notification.

They argued that the exemption was granted purely on the basis of expert committee's recommendations and the notification has not taken away NET/SET holders right. They claimed that NET/SET holders want to restrict the criteria for no valid reasons. The interveners' also cited Madras high court's reference wherein similar petitions were dismissed.

Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/HC_notice_to_centre_on_UGC_order/articleshow/2302412.cms

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#14)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Aug 24, 2007 at 10:21:52 PM EST

I believe Ph.D/M.Phil holders have bright chances of winning the case. The reason :

Cheenai High Court final judgement is there and Cheenai High Court must have seen all legal aspects before dismissing the cases of NET/SET holders.
If I go by the newspaper report in which it is stated The petitioner alleged that giving such exemption by substituting NET/SET is gross violation of Article 14 of UGC Act. As per Section 28 of UGC Act, amendments in the government notification about any exemption in qualifications should be tabled before the Parliament, which the UGC had failed to do so, the petitioner claimed.

Here I would like to draw the attention that UGC has used the powers conferred by clause (e) and (g)of sub section (I)of section 26 read with section 14 University Grants Commission Act of 1956 to exempt NET /SET for M.Phil and Ph.D holders(as in the notification of 14.06.2007). Now the term "conferred" is used. This power was given by Indian Parliament in University Grants Commission Act of 1956 so UGC has exercised its power and Commission is drawing its power from the Parliament then why NET/SET exemption should be tabled in Parliament. If we apply our common sense when Parliament has created statutory body then it is the duty of the body to act and perform. This is for the first time I am hearing that examination to be conducted and exemption should be tabled in Parliament. Most important UGC is an autonomous organinization. UGC can recognises Institutions as Deemed University then that is not tabled in Parliament and has right to allocate funds so it has full right to change the qualifications also. As UGC is the doner.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#80)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 06:03:02 AM EST

madras high court gives its judjment which depends on Dr.Mungekar Committee. but now Dr.Mungekar agreed that phd,mphil not alternative to net/set

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#84)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 11:28:15 PM EST

Nowwhere it is written that Dr.Mungakar Dr.Mungekar agreed that phd,mphil not alternative to net/set. Please show the writing or circular/notice or report

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#13)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Aug 24, 2007 at 10:20:23 PM EST

I believe Ph.D/M.Phil holders have bright chances of winning the case. The reason :

Cheenai High Court final judgement is there and Cheenai High Court must have seen all legal aspects before dismissing the cases of NET/SET holders.
If I go by the newspaper report in which it is stated The petitioner alleged that giving such exemption by substituting NET/SET is gross violation of Article 14 of UGC Act. As per Section 28 of UGC Act, amendments in the government notification about any exemption in qualifications should be tabled before the Parliament, which the UGC had failed to do so, the petitioner claimed.

Here I would like to draw the attention that UGC has used the powers conferred by clause (e) and (g)of sub section (I)of section 26 read with section 14 University Grants Commission Act of 1956 to exempt NET /SET for M.Phil and Ph.D holders(as in the notification of 14.06.2007). Now the term "conferred" is used. This power was given by Indian Parliament in University Grants Commission Act of 1956 so UGC has exercised its power and Commission is drawing its power from the Parliament then why NET/SET exemption should be tabled in Parliament. If we apply our common sense when Parliament has created statutory body then it is the duty of the body to act and perform. This is for the first time I am hearing that examination to be conducted and exemption should be tabled in Parliament. Most important UGC is an autonomous organinization. UGC can recognises Institutions as Deemed Universities then that is not tabled in Parliament and has right to allocate funds so it has full right to change the qualifications also. As UGC is the doner.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#78)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Nov 07, 2007 at 05:53:50 AM EST

Earlier, the UGC took a stand that NET/SET can't be substituted by PhD or MPhil candidates. As per Section 28 of UGC Act, amendments in the government notification

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#99)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sat Nov 10, 2007 at 11:34:43 AM EST

Then how come Cheenai high court upheld UGC's notification of June 2006.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#11)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Aug 24, 2007 at 10:23:55 AM EST

Now let us wait upto October 16, 2007 for final hearing on the subject matter.

23 Aug 2007, Times of India , Nagpur City
HC notice to centre on UGC order

NAGPUR: The Nagpur bench of Bombay high court on Wednesday issued notice to Union of India on a petition by NET/SET holders challenging University Grants Commission (UGC) June 14, 2006 notification.

A division bench comprising justices A P Lavande and R V More also directed the respondents to file a reply in three weeks and fixed the final hearing on October 16.

During an earlier hearing, the high court gave a notice to UGC, which failed to file a reply. Then the court gave an interim stay to the said UGC notification.

However, in an interesting turn to the case, about 251 PhD and MPhil holders filed an intervention application seeking them as third party and challenging the stay granted on UGC notification.

Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/HC_notice_to_centre_on_UGC_order/articleshow/2302412.cms

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#10)
by Unregistered Visitors on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 06:06:35 AM EST

Normally Courts favour qualification regulations framed/amended by statutory professional and expert bodies.

In the present case, the fate of amended UGC Regulation 2006 (which relaxed NET for M.Phil.,/Ph.D., holders)depends upon how best UGC defends it. No doubt few months back same UGC defended and saved its regulation at Madras High Court. But same might not be the case this time as UGC itself is contemplating reversal of NET relaxation as widely reported in newitems (THE HINDU, New Delhi dated Jan 12). In case if Nagpur bench of Mumbai High Court quashes 14-06-2006 notification, it may turn out as an action in disguise for UGC to bring back NET.

It seems same NET Review Committee chaired by Dr.Mungekar which recommended NET relaxation in its interim report (which UGC accepted in principle then) is now somersaulting on the same issue through its pending final report, recommending reversal of NET for M.Phil holders. The reason cited for yet another U-turn on teachership qualification is bad quality of M.Phil. One wonders that same educational administrators who on 14.06.2006 made M.Phil as qualification first time after 1995 are now questioning the bad quality of M.Phil few months later.

Poor M.Phil holders. Hope UGC defends and saves its own regulation in letter and spirit.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#9)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Aug 14, 2007 at 11:34:04 AM EST

Division Benches at Chennai High Court have twice upheld UGC's decision of exempting NET for M.Phil.,/Ph.D., holders on 14.06.2006 pursuant to report of Dr.Mungekar Committee, citing UGC and Mungekar Committee as expert and competent body to prescribe qualifications and Courts cannot interfere as they are not expert in that field.

[MADRAS HC DATED: 10.07.2006 W.P.NO.21435/2006 R.Nirmala Devi vs MHRD, UGC]
[MADRAS HC DATED; 24.03.2007 W.P. No.32958/2006 K.Sathyamurthi vs State of Tamil Nadu, Teachers Recruitment Board, UGC]

Similarly Bar Council's role in Legal Education is reiterated by apex court, wherein Supreme Court has categorically ruled that as the apex professional body the Bar Council of India is concerned with the standards of the legal profession and the equipment of those who seek entry into that profession.

The Court further upheld the BCI's stand that it should be possible for the authorities to ensure that a person having legal qualifications as presented by the Bar Council alone is appointed as principal of a Law College. Responding to the plea that the Bar Council has now watered down the qualification prescribed for principal's post as a mere degree in law, the Court said thus:

It was stated during the course of arguments that the Bar Council of India itself has watered down the requirement that the Principal of a Law College must have a Postgraduate degree in law and has now provided that it is enough if he has a mere degree in law. This again is a matter for the Bar Council of India to ponder over and to consider whether there is any justification in watering down the qualification for a Principal as either a doctorate in law or a postgraduate degree in law.

[Bar Council of India v. Board of Mang. Dayanand Coll. of Law and Ors. Civil Appeal No. 5301-5302 of 2001 decided on November 28, 2006]

- gmahavir_mdesnaa@yahoo.com

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#8)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 10:33:26 AM EST

In Tamilnadu, last year Mr.Sathyamurthy challenged UGC Regulation 2006 dated 14-06-2006 stipulated NET relaxation in WP 32958/2006 at Madras High Court. We impleaded in same writ in support of relaxation and filed a detailed affadavit without any delay strengthening the hands of UGC in defending its own regulation. Our timely impleading aided in avoiding stay on NET relaxation. Finally Division Bench upheld amended UGC Regulation 2006. Earlier in June 2006 one Nirmala Devi challenged same by PIL but was dismissed.

Hope these judgements (already sent to affected candidates) though having only persuasive effect save NET exemption, a repeat of what happened in Chennai.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#7)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Aug 05, 2007 at 06:41:39 AM EST

According to me M. Phil and Ph. D. holders should be given exemption in SET / NET exams. Take example of Maharashtra state which conducts SET exam in limited subjects only. Those who have passed M.M.S. or M.B. A. cannot appear SET exam as "Management" subject is not offered by Maharashtra SET Department and those who want to become teacher in Bachelor of Management Studies ( BMS ) course of university of Mumbai or BBA course in North Maharashtra Universities have to appear compulsory NET which is national level exam and tougher than SET exam. So teachers having MBA / MMS qualification are not getting equal chance as teachers in some other subjects get chance to appear SET as well as NET exam. So those who have completed M. phil or Ph. D. in Management should be given exemption in NET/ SET exams. In the same line those who have M. Phil or Ph. D. qualification should be given exemption from SET/NET exam in their concerned subjects.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#5)
by Unregistered Visitors on Tue Jul 31, 2007 at 03:11:26 AM EST

this was a measure to boost academic research which was dwindling. Due to net examination, no body was interested to continue research.However M.Phil/P.hd through correspondence should be discontinued.

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#3)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 02:37:23 AM EST

NET/SET holders are opposing this exemption. Some Indian Universities also oppposing this exemption. Find more information here, http://ugc-net.blogspot.com/

: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#6)
by Unregistered Visitors on Sun Aug 05, 2007 at 06:34:50 AM EST

According to me M. Phil and Ph. D. holders should be given exemption in SET / NET exams. Take example of Maharashtra state which conducts SET exam in limited subjects only. Those who have passed M.M.S. or M.B. A. cannot appear SET exam as "Management" subject is not offered by Maharashtra SET Department and those who want to become teacher in Bachelor of Management Studies ( BMS ) course of university of Mumbai or BBA course in North Maharashtra Universities have to appear compulsory NET which is national level exam and tougher than SET exam. So teachers having MBA / MMS qualification are not getting equal chance as teachers in some other subjects get chance to appear SET as well as NET exam. So those who have completed M. phil or Ph. D. in Management should be given exemption in NET/ SET exams. In the same line those who have M. Phil or Ph. D. qualification should be given exemption from SET/NET exam in their concerned subjects.

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: Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#4)
by Unregistered Visitors on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 04:08:19 AM EST

All India recruitment is going on so I think the new notification is going to be there.
UGC is coming up with all India Level Ph.D Entrance Examaniation apart from NET examiantion.There will be new evaluation system for examining Ph.D thesis.This new examiantion is for admission in Ph.D and is going to be implemented in August 2007.
Those who are doing Ph.D they have to give an examination like M.Phil before a Viva Voce of Ph.D to get the degree. Even after your thesis is passed by the examiners the candidate has to submit a copy of his thesis to UGC which will be uploaded on a website sothat everybody can read it.
The order of UGC is an year old so now I do not think Nagpur High Court is going to cancel the notification.There is an order of Supreme Court that it is the prerogative of any employer to change the eligibility criteria and that cannot be questioned. That is the reason when IIT Board changed the format and eligibility criteria for IIT JEE court refused to interfere and from 2007 new eligibility conditions were implemented. Secondly there was a petition against NET exemption in Chennai High Court where the Chennai High Court refused to cancel the new notification when it delivered the final judgment in march 2007.

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Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#2)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:40:43 AM EST

i also in same search. is their is ant set/net association in maharastra?

Re: Nagpur Bench stay UGC-NET exemption! (none / 0) (#1)
by Unregistered Visitors on Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 07:40:32 AM EST

i also in same search. is their is ant set/net association in maharastra?

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